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	<title>Comments on: The Tarot of the Elves High Priestess</title>
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		<title>By: Nathalie</title>
		<link>http://www.llewellyn.com/blog/2009/11/the-tarot-of-the-elves-high-priestess/comment-page-1/#comment-24039</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I must be in the minority because this deck&#039;s High Priestess is probably my favourite HP card of any Tarot deck so far precisely because it is so striking. I understand why it has caused so much controversy, what with the blood (and implied murder, if one follows the storyline provided in the accompanying book), but personally, I think the visuals fit the conventional description of this card. I interpret the blood as the equivalent of the traditional veil hanging behind the HP, i.e. the barrier between the conscious and the unconscious, between life and death. The card&#039;s typical feeling of passivity and quiet intuitive receptivity is aptly conveyed by the fact that she lays prone on the ground, which, in essence, is no different from her standard seated pose. Both are essentially passive, receptive, non-active positions. The distraught figure of the man at her side conveys to me the card&#039;s other traditional meaning of asking &quot;why?&quot; - of mystery, of deep, hidden questions, issues or insights that have not yet seen the light of day. 

All of this is just my humble opinion, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I must be in the minority because this deck&#8217;s High Priestess is probably my favourite HP card of any Tarot deck so far precisely because it is so striking. I understand why it has caused so much controversy, what with the blood (and implied murder, if one follows the storyline provided in the accompanying book), but personally, I think the visuals fit the conventional description of this card. I interpret the blood as the equivalent of the traditional veil hanging behind the HP, i.e. the barrier between the conscious and the unconscious, between life and death. The card&#8217;s typical feeling of passivity and quiet intuitive receptivity is aptly conveyed by the fact that she lays prone on the ground, which, in essence, is no different from her standard seated pose. Both are essentially passive, receptive, non-active positions. The distraught figure of the man at her side conveys to me the card&#8217;s other traditional meaning of asking &#8220;why?&#8221; &#8211; of mystery, of deep, hidden questions, issues or insights that have not yet seen the light of day. </p>
<p>All of this is just my humble opinion, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: alexandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>alexandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 02:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps the negativity this card is usually met with speaks of the ideas we have about death, of it being a dreadful thing &amp; something that &quot;takes away&quot;, many people pretend it doesn&#039;t exist or they run from it kicking &amp; screaming, until they have to eventually surrender to it. this negative preception has to do with fear,

immediately upon seeing the card i felt the creature that is still alive &amp; &quot;above&quot; her was in an entranced, connected state, conducting a sacred energy of love vulnerability, surrender &amp; healing.

like sickness, which is imbalance, the &quot;yucky stuff&quot; has to surface in order to be cleansed ( they&#039;re both in white &amp; there&#039;s an old aura of grey thickness clearing &amp; airing out of them &amp; around them )

&amp; life is restored &amp; replenished,
like the way your body needs sleep

those who meet this card ( or anyone or anything, for that matter ) with fear, have some getting in touch with themselves, some things to face within to do.

this feels like life balancing itself out,
in the moment we may not always understand
or see the big picture, the ultimate purpose
but it is always happening &amp; when we let go of our preceptions, particularly the negative ones, we see &amp; become in contact with all the beauty &amp; love that is unfolding within &amp; all around us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps the negativity this card is usually met with speaks of the ideas we have about death, of it being a dreadful thing &amp; something that &#8220;takes away&#8221;, many people pretend it doesn&#8217;t exist or they run from it kicking &amp; screaming, until they have to eventually surrender to it. this negative preception has to do with fear,</p>
<p>immediately upon seeing the card i felt the creature that is still alive &amp; &#8220;above&#8221; her was in an entranced, connected state, conducting a sacred energy of love vulnerability, surrender &amp; healing.</p>
<p>like sickness, which is imbalance, the &#8220;yucky stuff&#8221; has to surface in order to be cleansed ( they&#8217;re both in white &amp; there&#8217;s an old aura of grey thickness clearing &amp; airing out of them &amp; around them )</p>
<p>&amp; life is restored &amp; replenished,<br />
like the way your body needs sleep</p>
<p>those who meet this card ( or anyone or anything, for that matter ) with fear, have some getting in touch with themselves, some things to face within to do.</p>
<p>this feels like life balancing itself out,<br />
in the moment we may not always understand<br />
or see the big picture, the ultimate purpose<br />
but it is always happening &amp; when we let go of our preceptions, particularly the negative ones, we see &amp; become in contact with all the beauty &amp; love that is unfolding within &amp; all around us</p>
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		<title>By: Blackbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blackbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 00:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about the Lateness of this post I only just really found this blog... 

I must admit I am not familiar with this deck and am reacting strictly to the Art itself, which is certainly beautifully executed and disturbing; IMHO the first question we must ask ourselves is whether the 2nd Character knelling at the head of the slain woman, the woman herself. Do we see the soul having passed through the veil on the other side of the archway ... If so we have a very different card, than if as IRMATA suggests  she has been murdered, &quot;I infer this from the clawed “WHY???” fists of the other figure.&quot; Perhaps, but I tend to see the figure bringing the thumb and forefinger of otherwise open hands together in a more meditational pose.  

Ritual death, even unto real death; is quite a different thing from Murder; which in the ancient world was held to leave a restless, not enlightened spirit. 

In the end I tend to like this card if only because; 

If you have seen a person through Addiction, Alcoholism, other such troubles, you know the terrible price that must be paid to reach for the calm and wisdom the Priestess represents; the path to that attainment can be quite bloody indeed. 

And while Kevin makes a good point about not using the Deck for Consulting, I personally only use 3 or 4 decks for consultations anymore; but a long standing part of my own practice has been to use reversals as a cue that basically says to me; this card, different deck and intuitively go to another deck. That Inner deck we all have, that is multidimensional and made up of all the various visions of various decks we have exposed ourselves too is surely enriched by exposure to challenging images like this one. It might make a very interesting deck to take ones own daily draws from for a month. 

If feel compelled to take a moment for an aside on Marks comments, “Some responses to this card point to a limitation faced by certain contemporary Tarot card readers, who tend to confuse reading the cards with projecting personal issues upon them. 
This approach to reading the cards is popular — primarily, I think, because it does not require its adherents to read any books. But this approach is also a bit limiting, in the same way that trying to study art history by staring in a mirror would be, and the rewards gleaned through exclusive application of this approach will be limited, as well.”  

And I would say … at the end of the Day the Art has to speak for itself. It will have to speak to for itself in the context of any given reading for which the deck is selected. I find the hostility he expresses for people relying on their intuitive/ instinctual responses to the Art, as projecting there own issues on the cards odd, and perhaps a projection itself. After all Mark’s income comes from people reading Books, certainly he wants them to read those books.  
I think most of us here understand, 

Reading the Tarot is no “Instant” thing. IMHO it makes a good Year and Day project; just to develop a working relationship with your first deck. It can take a lifetime from there expanding that contract, expanding ones knowledge of the language  ones guide speaks, through the Tarot; and yes Books can be helpful, but I don’t think we should rely on them to heavily; only when we have exhausted the possibilities for interpreting the art on its own merits first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about the Lateness of this post I only just really found this blog&#8230; </p>
<p>I must admit I am not familiar with this deck and am reacting strictly to the Art itself, which is certainly beautifully executed and disturbing; IMHO the first question we must ask ourselves is whether the 2nd Character knelling at the head of the slain woman, the woman herself. Do we see the soul having passed through the veil on the other side of the archway &#8230; If so we have a very different card, than if as IRMATA suggests  she has been murdered, &#8220;I infer this from the clawed “WHY???” fists of the other figure.&#8221; Perhaps, but I tend to see the figure bringing the thumb and forefinger of otherwise open hands together in a more meditational pose.  </p>
<p>Ritual death, even unto real death; is quite a different thing from Murder; which in the ancient world was held to leave a restless, not enlightened spirit. </p>
<p>In the end I tend to like this card if only because; </p>
<p>If you have seen a person through Addiction, Alcoholism, other such troubles, you know the terrible price that must be paid to reach for the calm and wisdom the Priestess represents; the path to that attainment can be quite bloody indeed. </p>
<p>And while Kevin makes a good point about not using the Deck for Consulting, I personally only use 3 or 4 decks for consultations anymore; but a long standing part of my own practice has been to use reversals as a cue that basically says to me; this card, different deck and intuitively go to another deck. That Inner deck we all have, that is multidimensional and made up of all the various visions of various decks we have exposed ourselves too is surely enriched by exposure to challenging images like this one. It might make a very interesting deck to take ones own daily draws from for a month. </p>
<p>If feel compelled to take a moment for an aside on Marks comments, “Some responses to this card point to a limitation faced by certain contemporary Tarot card readers, who tend to confuse reading the cards with projecting personal issues upon them.<br />
This approach to reading the cards is popular — primarily, I think, because it does not require its adherents to read any books. But this approach is also a bit limiting, in the same way that trying to study art history by staring in a mirror would be, and the rewards gleaned through exclusive application of this approach will be limited, as well.”  </p>
<p>And I would say … at the end of the Day the Art has to speak for itself. It will have to speak to for itself in the context of any given reading for which the deck is selected. I find the hostility he expresses for people relying on their intuitive/ instinctual responses to the Art, as projecting there own issues on the cards odd, and perhaps a projection itself. After all Mark’s income comes from people reading Books, certainly he wants them to read those books.<br />
I think most of us here understand, </p>
<p>Reading the Tarot is no “Instant” thing. IMHO it makes a good Year and Day project; just to develop a working relationship with your first deck. It can take a lifetime from there expanding that contract, expanding ones knowledge of the language  ones guide speaks, through the Tarot; and yes Books can be helpful, but I don’t think we should rely on them to heavily; only when we have exhausted the possibilities for interpreting the art on its own merits first.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.llewellyn.com/blog/2009/11/the-tarot-of-the-elves-high-priestess/comment-page-1/#comment-3522</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Hermit&#039;s Inward Search for hidden meaning reveals The High Priestess, She Represents the Moon, Which is the Sum of all things Past, The Reflection of those things which are no more is the foundation of Intuition and the Bases of Emotion.  The High Priestess is at the Root of the whole death experience.  She mingles in the Darkness with the Deception of Shadows from the Past and the whispers of the Lower self.  The Sadness Personified in the Separation of the Moon 
And the Sun, is all about the Persecution of GODDESS and the Dis-unity of Self in the lower realms.

The Moon Goddess speakes to us of the never ending cycle of rebirth and decay in the realm of Sorrow and Karma.

I find the Artwork most fitting.

Bobby Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hermit&#8217;s Inward Search for hidden meaning reveals The High Priestess, She Represents the Moon, Which is the Sum of all things Past, The Reflection of those things which are no more is the foundation of Intuition and the Bases of Emotion.  The High Priestess is at the Root of the whole death experience.  She mingles in the Darkness with the Deception of Shadows from the Past and the whispers of the Lower self.  The Sadness Personified in the Separation of the Moon<br />
And the Sun, is all about the Persecution of GODDESS and the Dis-unity of Self in the lower realms.</p>
<p>The Moon Goddess speakes to us of the never ending cycle of rebirth and decay in the realm of Sorrow and Karma.</p>
<p>I find the Artwork most fitting.</p>
<p>Bobby Jack</p>
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		<title>By: Mark McElroy</title>
		<link>http://www.llewellyn.com/blog/2009/11/the-tarot-of-the-elves-high-priestess/comment-page-1/#comment-3298</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark McElroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because tone can be difficult to &quot;hear&quot; in text, I would like to clarify something: in my earlier post, I was very careful to address general trends and attitudes I&#039;ve encountered personally -- not to address any specific person here, or any specific person&#039;s comment made before my own. 

Some final notes;

- I do think there&#039;s room in my personal collection for decks that feature more than smiling, rainbow-hued prancing unicorns or rehashes of Rider-Waite-Smith themes and images. I do think it&#039;s okay for a deck to incorporate cards that startle or unsettle me or my clients. I think that some truths are disturbing, and I think that the language of Tarot should be diverse enough to address those truths. 

- I don&#039;t think every deck is for everybody. I don&#039;t think every deck can or should be or has to be for everybody. 

- I don&#039;t think the Tarot of the Elves is for everybody. Some folks will like it. Some folks won&#039;t. I don&#039;t take it personally when people don&#039;t like this deck, but I do like to point out the difference between what&#039;s actually going on in the card and what people *imagine* is going on there.

- I do think that knowing the story behind this particular card is absolutely essential to fully understanding and appreciating it. I do think there are important messages that the Tarot of the Elves (once you learn its language and symbol set) can deliver with this card that you will *not* get from drawing the High Priestess from, say, the Waite-Smith. 

But lacking that context, I can see how folks would imagine all sorts of things going on. Many people will be content to stop there, with what they have imagined, and never find out more. Some, though, will be motivated to ask questions and dig a little deeper.

I have a special place in my heart for those kinds of people, and I confess I made this deck especially for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because tone can be difficult to &#8220;hear&#8221; in text, I would like to clarify something: in my earlier post, I was very careful to address general trends and attitudes I&#8217;ve encountered personally &#8212; not to address any specific person here, or any specific person&#8217;s comment made before my own. </p>
<p>Some final notes;</p>
<p>- I do think there&#8217;s room in my personal collection for decks that feature more than smiling, rainbow-hued prancing unicorns or rehashes of Rider-Waite-Smith themes and images. I do think it&#8217;s okay for a deck to incorporate cards that startle or unsettle me or my clients. I think that some truths are disturbing, and I think that the language of Tarot should be diverse enough to address those truths. </p>
<p>- I don&#8217;t think every deck is for everybody. I don&#8217;t think every deck can or should be or has to be for everybody. </p>
<p>- I don&#8217;t think the Tarot of the Elves is for everybody. Some folks will like it. Some folks won&#8217;t. I don&#8217;t take it personally when people don&#8217;t like this deck, but I do like to point out the difference between what&#8217;s actually going on in the card and what people *imagine* is going on there.</p>
<p>- I do think that knowing the story behind this particular card is absolutely essential to fully understanding and appreciating it. I do think there are important messages that the Tarot of the Elves (once you learn its language and symbol set) can deliver with this card that you will *not* get from drawing the High Priestess from, say, the Waite-Smith. </p>
<p>But lacking that context, I can see how folks would imagine all sorts of things going on. Many people will be content to stop there, with what they have imagined, and never find out more. Some, though, will be motivated to ask questions and dig a little deeper.</p>
<p>I have a special place in my heart for those kinds of people, and I confess I made this deck especially for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Second Thoughts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Second Thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Tarot of the Elves High Priestess [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Barbara Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.llewellyn.com/blog/2009/11/the-tarot-of-the-elves-high-priestess/comment-page-1/#comment-3230</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure I want to know any of this about Sean Connery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I want to know any of this about Sean Connery.</p>
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		<title>By: lada</title>
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		<dc:creator>lada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my understanding was that Sean Connery and his wife had a consensual S&amp;M thing going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my understanding was that Sean Connery and his wife had a consensual S&amp;M thing going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.llewellyn.com/blog/2009/11/the-tarot-of-the-elves-high-priestess/comment-page-1/#comment-3216</link>
		<dc:creator>Barbara Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many questions are surfacing in these comments. As with many things connected with tarot, complexity is the name of the game. 

Later today, I&#039;m going to do a further entry about the points I think are raised by this entry and the comments, which have little to do with this specific card. 

In the meantime, feel free to add more comments. I&#039;ll definitely check them before posting. 

Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many questions are surfacing in these comments. As with many things connected with tarot, complexity is the name of the game. </p>
<p>Later today, I&#8217;m going to do a further entry about the points I think are raised by this entry and the comments, which have little to do with this specific card. </p>
<p>In the meantime, feel free to add more comments. I&#8217;ll definitely check them before posting. </p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Irmata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irmata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also want to add that my response was purely to the question being asked, namely &quot;What do you think of this card as the High Priestess?&quot; I&#039;m sure it _does_ have a great back-story in terms of the deck and book that goes along with it, but I am not familiar with it. That does not mean that my reaction (or anyone else&#039;s) is incorrect or invalid _in relation to the question_. To imply that anyone who does not like this card is lazy, has personal issues and is afraid of the truth is jumping to conclusions. 

Mark, as the creator of the deck, maybe you could educate us as to the story behind the card. I am interested to see how many of us would feel differently if we knew the aim of this artwork.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also want to add that my response was purely to the question being asked, namely &#8220;What do you think of this card as the High Priestess?&#8221; I&#8217;m sure it _does_ have a great back-story in terms of the deck and book that goes along with it, but I am not familiar with it. That does not mean that my reaction (or anyone else&#8217;s) is incorrect or invalid _in relation to the question_. To imply that anyone who does not like this card is lazy, has personal issues and is afraid of the truth is jumping to conclusions. </p>
<p>Mark, as the creator of the deck, maybe you could educate us as to the story behind the card. I am interested to see how many of us would feel differently if we knew the aim of this artwork.</p>
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