There are magicians and there are those who play at magick… I was once participating on an internet forum discussing chaos magick. One person posted that the great thing about magick [meaning chaos magick] is that you didn't have to accomplish anything, you could just do it. I asked why go to all the bother of doing magick if you didn't accomplish anything? I also pointed out that one of the earliest names of what is now called chaos magick was "results magick," indicating that obtaining results through magick was the purpose of doing the magick. He didn't respond for a few days. I imagine several of his friends PMed him about this. Eventually, he posted that I "just didn't get it"