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No Mirror Spells, Please!

This post was written by Donald Michael Kraig
on September 22, 2009 | Comments (41)

One of the most common discussions I’ve had (or seen) about magick concerns psychic attack. I deal with this in Modern Magick, and point out that I agree with concept that Denning and Phillips present in their book Practical Guide to Psychic Self-Defense, that real psychic attacks are rare. After all, if someone has the ability to use magick to cause you major problems, they also have the ability make major improvements in their lives. If somebody is really going to waste the time, energy, and effort to try and give you a headache or have you lose a job rather than improve their own situation, then they’re idiots and probably can’t do anything anyway.

Sometimes, we misinterpret events and think something common is a psychic attack. A series of colds or what we consider to be a trail of misfortune may be from our own doing or just coincidence.

That brings me to the discussion of “mirror spells.” The idea of a mirror spell seems to make sense. It’s called a mirror spell because it reflects any negativity back onto the person or persons who sent it. It’s instant karma, right? They’re only getting what they sent, right? They’re only getting what they deserve, right?

Wrong!

Mirror spells, in my opinion, are not advisable for at least three reasons.

1) Sometimes we create our own problems. For example, a bad diet, lack of sleep, the use of alcohol and recreational drugs can lower the efficiency of your immune system, resulting in one illness after another. If you think the repeated ailments are caused by an outside force and perform a mirror spell to return the negative energy to it’s source, you’re actually going to be attacking yourself. I don’t believe that’s anyone’s intent. It certainly wouldn’t be in your best interest!

2) Sometimes we are effected by a stream of energy directed unintentionally against us. For example, a person’s partner breaks up with them. First that person feels sadness from the loss. This may change to lack of belief: “How could s/he?!” And that emotion might change to anger and rage: “How dare s/he?!” The person ends up stomping around their room thinking angry, rage-filled thoughts. This pacing, a method of raising energy known as “circumambulation,” unconsciously forms what the Golden Dawn called a “Vortex of Energy” or what many Pagans refer to as a “Cone of Power” (see The Grimoire of Lady Sheba, for example). This could unconsciously send the energy linked to the anger toward a person the “attacker” never would have consciously harmed. In fact, that might be the last thing they would ever do. Were a mirror spell turned on a person who unconsciously did this it would be punishing a person who had no conscious intention of causing harm. They only thought they were acting out their rage. Is it fair to harm someone who meant no harm? I don’t think so.

3) Many Pagans believe in the “law of three,” that what you send out will return to you three-fold. Even if you don’t go that far, one of the basic concepts of magick is that if you do X, Y will happen. Therefore, whatever you do comes back to you in some way.

If a person does something to harm you, it will eventually come back to them. When I lived in San Diego I knew a Pagan woman who told me she used to be a Satanist. She admitted that she used to attack other people. She claimed she knew her psychic attack had worked when something bad happened to her. It took her some time to see the futility of what she was doing, but she eventually figured it out.

If you perform a mirror spell you are consciously deciding to send negative energy to someone. Frankly, this is no different than a psychic attack with an added “But he hit me first!” cry heard so often from a child.

So to avoid harming yourself, harming someone who never consciously would harm you, or incurring negative karma that will bounce back on you, I suggest avoiding mirror spells. Does this mean you should just leave yourself wide open to attack? Of course not! I’ll be discussing what you can do in future posts.

Have you ever performed a mirror spell? What was the result? Was it effective or did you end up punishing yourself?

Reader Comments

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#1 
Written By Barbara Moore
on September 24th, 2009 @ 7:35 am

I never have, and have never even heard of it. I knew a woman who always said something like she wouldn’t cast spells to harm others but just the Mother to give that person their due. She said it with a really awful tone, like she was pretending to not deal in negativity, but in her heart she was wishing it. That always bothered me. This mirror spell sounds like that.

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#2 
Written By David Davidson
on October 23rd, 2009 @ 5:57 am

Uhm, couldn’t one easily solve the problem by simply wording the spell in a way that if the source of the problem is oneself, the mirror will not return the energy?

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#3 
Written By Donald Michael Kraig
on October 23rd, 2009 @ 9:12 am

Good question, David.

I think the problem with that solution is that if you, unconsciously, are the cause, and you do a spell to mirror the unwanted energy–but not so that it will come back to you–the result would be…nothing. All that magickal work–planning and performing your spell or ritual–and you will have no way of knowing if your magick had failed or if it had been effective by not harming you.

You’re correct in that the result of such magick won’t harm you, but it won’t have any effect.

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#4 
Written By gabriel landaeta
on November 9th, 2009 @ 11:09 am

i think that even prior to make any magickal solution you must be sure that the source is magickal, or must precise and psychic attack. i here a lot between pagans that they are under psychic attack and in most cases is probably that is their bad energy working against themselves

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#5 
Written By elaine
on February 17th, 2010 @ 4:02 pm

sigh…speaking from experience…
I was deeply wounded by someone who was like a sister to me..I just wanted her to stop hurting me and others, to have whatever she continued to do to me or her family bounce back to her, to teach her a lesson. I did this with heavy heart, and guilt that I would go so far..I cried myself to sleep that night, trying to convince myself it was the right thing to do. The next day, waking up with a headache, felt horrible, and and kept dropping things, breaking things, turned down for a job, and the list goes on..perhaps it’s just my guilt creating a bad day for myself. Obviously not worth it though.

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#6 
Written By LJ
on August 1st, 2010 @ 12:17 pm

First, you yourself state you knew people who would and have attacked someone. People can be blind, so to say that no one that has power and knowledge (power and knowledge doesnt make wisdom) will initional attack with something that would work is defeated by that comment. Secondly, anyone that deals in battles, to protect fools like you, know that you must confirm an attack before attacking. Mirrors spell are not to be taken lightly, mirrors are doorways not just items to reflect and should be used sparingly. Third as far as the law of karma and the rule of three, some people don’t care or think they are of appove the law and rule or don’t even believe in the law and rule. To denounce mirrors as wrong or fool hearty only shows how wrong and fool hearty you are. I hope you never have to find out how much. Be happy in your light those of balance will do are best to let you live there.

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#7 
Written By LJ
on August 1st, 2010 @ 12:36 pm

My partner said I should specify and I agree. Mirrors done corretly can be used specified to reflect attention sent energy, there is a different frequency in the energy when it is sent and not just thought. Sent energy needs at least a candle or simple shields and protection spells will protect you. They also don’t have to be for a single person, but in using against a single person then a binding mirror box would be better then an open reflections spell. Mirrors can also be used for divination, assistances in astral projection, invocations, etc. Warning on this ensure to spell your mirror first the natural state of a mirror is the shadow realm. NOT a place a light worker like you would like to deal with. If you are under attack be sure to lock all your mirrors even your bathroom mirror with at least holy water, I doubt a worker like you would have the guts to prick a finger and cross them correct so at least use psalms and put holy water crosses up. I’ll stop my rant with this, study the old ways not the new age fluffy rainbow foolishness that is missing half the stuff and you might gain true knowledge.

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#8 
Written By LJ
on August 1st, 2010 @ 8:17 pm

After read more of your post out there, I am shocked at what you wrote here. Science and magic do go hand and hand. Some of your own comments, pseudo-skeptic. A little hypocritical. When compared to this writing.

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#9 
Written By Mark
on November 27th, 2010 @ 8:20 pm

If I have used a mirror spell to send negitive energy back to antoher! And now I want to correct what I have done/ Karma, even if I am unaware of the results of the mirror.

How doe’s one go about correcting the energy?

Thanks Mark

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#10 
Written By Ginger
on November 29th, 2010 @ 5:02 pm

I had a spell caster cast a break up and return spell . the day it was cast a large mirror in my bedroom fell off the wall from which it was on .and broke in 4 peices plus shardes this mirror seen the both of us .. HAS THIS EVER HAPPENED to anyone ,,

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#11 
Written By Rebecca
on December 31st, 2010 @ 5:42 am

LJ.. I have never felt compelled to comment on this site until I read your own comments. I will refrain from making this as lengthy as the version in my mind by saying only that each and every one of us creates our own reality. Some people choose to live in the “light”, as you say, and create their reality as such. Some people crave drama, and create such for themselves. There are many reasons why we choose the worlds we do – consciously or not. I understand you believe you are protecting ‘us fools’, but from what? We haven’t created the ‘battles’ in our realities that you have in your own. I believe you when insinuate that you are involved in ‘psychic warfare’, or often under psychic attack.. because it is what you’ve chosen. It is the reality that YOU built, not because anyone is doing it to you (unless, of course, you allow them to by believing that they are, thereby making that your reality. So, really, anyone in the world could psychically attack you by doing nothing at all. You take care of all of the work for them.)

More lengthy than I intended, but I do hope that you see my point without taking offense. I’m sure that the old ways could teach us all something, but don’t be so foolish as to presume you have nothing left to learn simply because you’ve studied them.

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#12 
Written By Rowan
on July 6th, 2011 @ 10:08 am

Why not use mirror spells? They are very common and historically very common. Mirrors are good against the evil eye as well. Do you not believe in magic or witchcraft? I know a lot of so-called witches don’t believe in magic any more. :) But us REAL witches surely do and if I need to use a mirror spell, I surely will, not thinking of these silly fears that you have about mirror spells. I am an adult and have no fear about consequences as I can accept them just fine. I also don’t believe in America’s Christianized Karma concept so that silliness doesn’t bother me either… I am an adult.

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#13 
Written By Donald Michael Kraig
on July 6th, 2011 @ 10:35 am

You are correct, Rowan. Mirror spells are “very common and historically very common.” But so, too, are war, prejudice, racism, slavery, and the murder of Witches. Merely because something was, or is, common doesn’t make it a good idea. Further, I would respectfully suggest that one of the signs of being an adult is being personally responsible for one’s actions. The attitude you present that you don’t care about the consequences of your actions is like saying you don’t care about getting cancer or heart disease from smoking or diabetes from poor eating choices and that you “can accept them just fine.” This is commonly the attitude of a child or adolescent. Being an adult is more than just achieving a certain age.

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#14 
Written By Raven
on July 6th, 2011 @ 11:22 am

I’m with Rowan on this. Mirror spells are still very much a part of occult practice, and are incredibly common in Hoodoo traditions. I’ve yet to have any Hoodoo practitioners tell me they were “punished” by some “rule of three” for using magic to defend themselves. All that “turn the other cheek” and “don’t defend yourself lest you get punished by karma” is a very New Age, harmful way of thinking. The “Rule of Three” was created by Gerald Gardner, and is not in any way a traditional part of Witchcraft. Even Doreen Valiente didn’t think much of it, and she wrote most of the Wiccan liturgy. The vast majority of current magical practitioners do not believe in, or abide by, any such “rule.”

Magical attack happens. There are bad people in this world, people that hugs and “bindings” cannot deal with. If somebody is breaking into your home, do you worry about hurting them, imagining you’ll be punished karmically if you bop them over the head? Of COURSE not; you do whatever you need to do to protect yourself. Likewise, if somebody is working evil against you, sending it back is perfectly justified. They brought it upon themselves by their own actions; you’re not attacking an innocent person.

So, yes, people, you can defend yourselves magically and send people’s own evil back upon them, and no, you will not be punished by “karma” (which is an Eastern concept, foreign to Western magical traditions.) Mirror Spells are still a vibrant and active part of folk magical practice, and in the right hands are perfectly justified. Don’t get caught up by the “thou shalt nots” who try and turn Witchcraft into a pallid, bland, fluffy, New Age mess. If you’re so afraid of working magic that you cannot ever do anything that might impact anybody, you have no business doing magic to begin with.

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#15 
Written By Rowan
on July 6th, 2011 @ 11:25 am

Well, actually, I could probably handle the consequences, I do much thinking before I do something and I’m a pretty capable person. If I felt that I wanted to smoke, knowing the consequences, don’t you think that I should be able to deal with the consequences? I don’t need Christian limitations to my witchcraft to seem adult. I know that nowadays witches are afraid of karma which is really just something to fill the blank left by Christian sin… instead of waiting for God to punish you, you get it right now. :) at least in the American version… being that the Hindu believe something else.
I know that limiting yourself like this can help you pat yourself on the back, “I don’t do anything actually BAD, I’m such a good person!” :) “Hey Christians! I don’t do any REAL witchcraft, please like me!”
Personally, I’m glad that you write such fluffiness because it scares more people away from REAL witchcraft… soon the fad will go away and we can go back to the woodwork doing REAL witchcraft… many spells because they believe in the Americanized Karma.
You actually look pretty darn young… probably haven’t had to live with many consequences, your generation is big on not accepting consequences, it’s someone else’s fault, so I’d guess that it would be difficult to deal with the consequences of your choices if you can’t find someone else to blame.
Also, I am not quite sure how you can compare a mirror spell to getting lung cancer, you must be pretty afraid of magic!
Well, if you don’t like the consequences of spell casting… don’t be a witch! It’s just like if you don’t like a curse being cast at you, don’t piss off a witch! Life is hard, it all has consequences and avoiding them is not necessarily adult, which you may learn in about 20 years.

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#16 
Written By Rowan
on July 6th, 2011 @ 11:43 am

Raven, hear! Hear! While God does love the sheep, witchcraft is all about self empowerment… getting things done. If you don’t want self empowerment, why practice witchcraft? I find it interesting that here people are trying to help themselves and self righteous people are trying their damnedest to stop it… “Stop! Think of the horrible consequences that you might face if you try to protect yourself! Much safer to be a lamb of God…. it’s better to lay down and accept all those misfortunes than actually act to protect yourself.
Funny… I’ve never ONCE had anything bad happen from a curse or anything that I have done to protect myself… I’m probably just a very lucky witch… think of all the bad things that COULD have happened!

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#17 
Written By Donald Michael Kraig
on July 6th, 2011 @ 5:20 pm

Hi, Raven.

I stand by my position that merely because something has been done or is done doesn’t justify it’s continuation.

I would respectfully point out that you have created what I would contend is a false equation: either you do mirror spells or you must suffer magickal attack. Sorry, I don’t buy it. IMO a good magician keeps up his or her guard so that any attack has no effect. Why leave yourself wide open?

Concerning your example, even if someone invades your home, if you physically assault them, as you suggested, you could end up being sued and going to jail. That’s karma for ya! :-)

You’re also making the assumption that the only way to defend oneself is by harming others. I reject that. There are all sorts of techniques a good magician can use that result in safety and security without harm. Of course, to do that one must think creatively and intelligently rather than following the Christian concept of “an eye for an eye.”

Rowan, the problem with you solution of claiming you should be able to handle it is that neither you nor I know what it is you will need to handle. :-)

Respectfully, Karma has nothing to do with sin or Christianity. Unfortunately, most people function from a very Christianized concept (introduced by Theosophists) as to the nature of karma. A more accurate description can be found here: LINK

Sorry to disappoint you, but I’m neither afraid of casting spells nor of doing magick. Casting strong spells to protect yourself, your loved ones, and those whom you consider family doesn’t require harming anyone.

When I was a kid, if my mother heard me swearing, she didn’t punish me, she merely said, “Swearing is just a sign that you’re not smart enough to come up with something better.”

If you’re a Witch—and I have no reason to doubt that your claim is completely valid—I challenge you to come up with something better. For example, you wrote, “Life is hard…” Really? For a Witch?

I dunno, but perhaps if you focused on helping yourself and the people around you instead of figuring out ways to harm those who you think are attacking you, maybe, just maybe, life wouldn’t be that hard.

Hmmm. So you’ve “never ONCE had anything bad happen from a curse,” you’ve done and you find that life is hard, however you don’t see a connection and don’t believe in karma.

In the words of Star Trek’s Mr. Spock, “Fascinating.” ;-)

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#18 
Written By Muninn's Kiss
on July 10th, 2011 @ 4:08 pm

@Rebecca Am I reading you right that you think bad things can only happen to you if you create them in your reality? I must be misunderstanding, because that sounds very much like claims that if a woman (or man for that matter) is raped, it is because she brought it on herself. Each person is responsible for his own actions. When someone else does something bad to me, they are responsible for what they did, not me. I didn’t bring it on myself by creating it in my reality. This is as true in the magical world as the mundane (if there’s any difference between the two). People do use magic to hurt other people, and it is not the person being hurt bringing it on themselves. If you’re attacked, you need to be ready to defend yourself, not pretend it’s not happening because it’s not something you have in your reality and how it goes away. If someone ever tries to rape me, I intend to fight back, to make noise, to do anything I can to keep it from happening. Why would I do less in magic.

@Donald Concerning someone breaking into your house and attacking you and you fighting back, it depends where you live. Look up the Colorado Make My Day Law. Wyoming, where I live is similar. Concerning an eye for an eye, that isn’t a Christian concept. It is in the Jewish Law and in the Code of Hammurabi. Jesus specifically rejected it, saying about it, “But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also. And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two. Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away.” The exact opposite of it. So where do you get it’s a Christian concept? Even the Jews teach that it’s about compensation and now require the value of what’s taken (including an eye) to be paid, not the eye itself. Regarding the Law of Three, I had a Wiccan friend a while back with whom I was talking about it. He said that whether he used magic to harm or to help, it always seemed to come back to him negatively. Personally, no matter how I’ve used magic, I haven’t had it come back to me negatively or positively. When I’ve healed, they got the benefit. I didn’t get any type of blessing in my life. If it doesn’t apply to helpful magic, why would it apply to harmful magic. Magic isn’t something separate from nature. Magical energy is still energy, and energy can’t be created or destroyed, nor can matter, they can just be converted between the two states. If I send out (magical) energy and it comes back to me three fold, first off, who added energy to it, and second off, if it came back, how could it possibly create the change I intended? Personally, I don’t believe in the Law of Three or karma (at least the way you seem to be using it), but in cause and effect and in an opposite and equal reaction to any action. Yes, what I do has an effect, but not the way you and others seem to be saying. Whether you should do a mirror spell or not, if I reflect energy and something hits me, I failed to reflect it, I’m not being punished for reflecting it. I did no action, I just put up a barrier. The energy hit it and returned to its source. And if they knew enough to be able to attack me yet didn’t know enough to protect against the rebound, it wasn’t me that harmed them. It was their energy and their action, not mine. Just my thoughts.

FFF,
~Muninn’s Kiss

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#19 
Written By Rowan
on July 11th, 2011 @ 11:04 am

I’m not sure why one would need to believe in Karma unless someone felt that in order to be a good or wise person one would need to limit oneself? If so, then I will leave the New Age Fluffies to their wisdom, I’d rather live life to the fullest and not be wise as wisom seems to be so un fun, especially since nowadays so many people who have found this wisdom seem to enjoy pushing it on other people and patting themselves on the back for being so wise. Unfortunately for myself I guess, I’d rather go to my grave being unwise, unenlightened and just darn normal.
I’m wondering, are you the same Daniel Kraig who wrote the books on Ceremonial Magic(k)? If so… is this a new trend?

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#20 
Written By Donald Michael Kraig
on July 13th, 2011 @ 1:44 pm

Muninn’s Kiss, thank you for your GREAT response. I appreciate it. You are correct that laws differ. So let’s change it a bit. It’s my understanding that it is illegal to set up a trap for an invader (such as a gun triggered to go off upon illegal entry) in all U.S. states. I would contend that such a trap is similar to a mirror spell in that you are intending to harm a person, known or unknown.

You are also correct that the words “eye for an eye” appear earlier, but I specifically identified it as a Christian concept in the way it is most commonly interpreted today. The Jewish legal interpretation is not that the penalty for a crime “must equal” the extent of the crime, but rather, the penalty for a crime must not exceed the extent of a crime. For example, chopping off a person’s hands is not allowed for the theft of a loaf of bread. That penalty was common at the time of the writing. There were murders in biblical times, but the high court, the Sanhedrin, deemed that if a court sentenced one person to death it was a “bloody court.”

I did not mention Jesus because most of Christianity today has little to do with the words of Jesus and a lot to do with the ideas of Paul.

You wrote, “When I’ve healed, they got the benefit. I didn’t get any type of blessing in my life.” I would respectfully suggest that you received the blessing of the health of the person you healed and the blessing of the knowledge that you’ve helped another. Some blessings are more etherial than others. :)

Respectfully, putting up a barrier IS an action. Putting up a barrier knowing that you are sending negativity to its source is an action. And if you look at this LINKm the same as the one posted above, which takes you to the definitions of types of Karma, I think you’ll find that I’m not defining it in the way you’re interpreting it.

Rowan, Karma is not about limitation, it’s about learning. For example, if you put your hand in a fire, you’ll learn that fire is hot and burns you. If you consider learning that not getting burned is a limitation, so be it. If you choose to burn your hand to a crisp daily rather than face the “limitation” of having a healthy hand, so be it.

While it is true that some people have created all sorts of beliefs about what Karma is, those inventions have nothing to do with the reality that when you drop a stone into a still pond, ripples in the water result. It is a shame that according to your words you wish to choose to be unwise, but that is your choice. For thousands of years, people have sought wisdom. That was the norm. Now you are claiming that staying in ignorance is “just darn normal.” Respectfully, I don’t think so. If it is, then humanity is doomed.

No, I’m not “Daniel Kraig.” I don’t know of anyone by that name. But yes, I do write books about magick including the Kabalistic concept of Tee-koon, a Hebrew word meaning correction and equating to the traditional concept of Karma.

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#21 
Written By Rebecca
on April 11th, 2012 @ 1:39 am

@Munnin’s Kiss: You may be reading what I wrote correctly, but in a more narrow view than I intended when I wrote it. I wasn’t referring to single instances in a person’s life but their general view of life. The mentality that ‘everything bad happens to me’, or ‘I’m frequently under psychic attack’.

I completely understand your concerns when you base what I said on rape, but I meant my comments in a more generalized capacity. I have been raped. I do not think it was my fault. But this is a perfect situation to explain what I’m speaking of. There are people in the world who have been raped or molested and, even though they hurt, they come out it stronger, more compassionate, and generally better people. There are also people who go on afterwards with the mindset that the rape ruined their life, ruined everything for them since it happened, and some also use it as an excuse to develop negativity and even cruelty within themselves. What I mean is that we can not control other peoples’ actions, but we can control our reactions. We can control the way that we view our life experiences, how we feel about them, and how we react to them.

If someone is physically attacking me, I will protect myself. As far as a psychic attack, though, I can shield myself all I want to, but if I focus on that negativity that someone may or may not be sending my way, and allow it to seep into every aspect of my life, then I am basically attacking myself. I’m dragging myself down. But there is power in choice, and I can choose how I feel and how I react to anything that people do to me, and I’ve found that this is an excellent way to protect myself. No one can attack me psychically if I don’t allow it. A physical attack, such as the example you chose to use, is quite different. I can, however, choose how that would affect me.

I’ve had days before that from the moment I woke, everything seemed to go wrong. Now, on the one hand, I could focus on how horrible my day is going, worry about the next ‘attack’, and fret that someone is ‘attacking’ me, or I could tell myself, “This would have been hilarious on youtube.” or “My day may have started out badly, but I choose to not let it affect me, and try to have a good day from here on out.” By focusing on the negativity, and believing I am being attacked, I am only making it worse for myself by adding my own negativity to an already negative situation. By choosing not to let it hurt me and moving on with my life, I rise above what other people may or may not be doing to me, and “choose my own reality.”

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#22 
Written By Rebecca
on April 11th, 2012 @ 2:26 am

I also wanted to ask about all of these “new age fluffy pagan” comments. They seem a bit counter-productive to me. What I mean is, for a community that is so bent on gaining tolerance, religious or otherwise, why is it that we, as pagans, are so intolerant of not only other religions, but of each other as well?

As far as mirror spells go, I did them when I was young and just learning. At the time I felt that they worked very well. I haven’t used them since, though. Mainly because the more that I learn about humanity, the more I believe that whatever effects I felt those spells created, those people actually brought on themselves. Maybe because of karma, or maybe because negative people create negative energy. The energy you put out effects and changes the energy around it. Wasn’t this a lesson in physics? Anyway, you can call it physics, or karma, or the rule of three. I feel that mirror spells are a waste of time and energy, and there are much better ways to protect yourself that don’t harm people. The mirror spell’s specific intent is to return negativity to the sender. Which is intent to harm. There is a difference between protecting yourself and protecting yourself with the intent to harm.

I don’t consider the urge to ‘do no harm’ a ‘fluffy’ concept. It seems to me that the strongest people in the history of humanity effected major change, did lots of good, and became ‘strong’ without harming anyone. Look at Gandhi and Mother Teresa, Martin Luther King Jr. They certainly didn’t consider doing no harm, and generally being good people a ‘limiting’ or ‘fluffy’ way of life. I don’t think anyone considers them ‘limited’ or weak. They were constantly under attack. Yet practiced what they preached, lived by example, and never returned negativity for negativity. They were true to what they believed in, which takes incredible strength. How can we possibly complain about people attacking us, in any form, when we would turn around and do the same thing?

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#23 
Written By Emmer
on April 19th, 2012 @ 7:54 am

Sooooo,there are many views here and angles of perception. For myself, mirrors facing outward with a picture of me inside is just to protect any negative harmful energy from coming into my space. Taking a person and placing them between mirrors so whatever they cast also remains unto them self could be equally effective.

What about someone who has already raped and continues to harm children and others? What if you wanted to protect yourself from them coming back for you? I see it everyday and they are living with no illness, no life caving in on themselves etc. Do I want to harm them? Yes, it’s a normal reaction and there is several ways to go about it. One could just beat them into a pulp with their own bare hands… Justice served. Using magic to attack is uncomfortable and I wouldn’t go any further than turning them against themselves,placing them between mirrors or “freezing” them.

Throughout nature, animals, insects, plants, trees etc. many eat or be eaten,prey upon the weak, young and vulnerable. Sadly humans reflect this same behavior( not all humans) but there is nothing new about it. I don’t see how one is supposed to sit back and bear witness after options are exhausted. Social services did nothing, nobody believed the victim/ survivor and they are left to themselves to barely function. I do not buy into the realities that I hear in the new age community, that they were raped because they did that to another in another life etc. That can not be proven, past lives can not be proven… these are theories, beliefs and ideas one chooses or has been programmed with IMO.

I am not saying to go and attack others, but one can only go through so much before they snap. When someone attracts the same abusive partners and finally breaks free but then is faced with the damage done. Child trafficking and some of the most hideous crimes and when you can’t do anything about it… How would one not want to attack, react or do something about it? When law enforcement, teachers and other communal members are into ritually abusing others, mainly children and you bare witness to that and those affected, what can be done? Anger, hatred and other rage full feelings are overwhelming, and a natural response of course. Why is it considered lesser to seek revenge in any fashion, either physically, tactics to entrap or use magic?

I understand the importance in self healing, but we live in a world where we always have choice to either react or not. I had a discussion with a woman that questioned why I practice martial arts. She did not agree and said that in her buddhist beliefs, she would just not let it affect her if she was attacked. Maybe she is so far from that reality herself because she was sheltered and fluffy but in all reality, shit happens. Sadly we are told to move on, heal and let go. Partially I do agree, I walk away from a fight whenever possible and get out of he way and let them destroy themselves. In the roots of what survived in the ancient martial arts, most forms are about taking the attackers energy and directing it back at them. Using whatever it takes to put them down and making sure they do not get back up to harm you again. So, why is magic any different? Why is it that one cannot protect their own community and the vulnerable from predators, when the police and other cult members, old money and connections that are mob like just wreak havoc upon others?

So many points of view, yet no answers? Sadly where is this god/ goddess when all of these tragedies occur? Where is this almighty one when it’s clean up time after the disaster occurred? Just as many vines will strangle a trees and a plants growth, the specimen itself cannot defend itself, it just slowly is stunted in its growth and withers. No savior, no magical beings to help, just straight up reality. So one is to be punished or suffer the consequence if one chooses to attack, in whatever dimension she chooses? When one looses their child to the streets, crooked cops, gang warfare, senseless murder…did they deserve it? … [Stuff] happens as well as amazing things of beauty and wonder. I just don’t think their are explanations or solid answers…just points of view and realities that one may use to get through, react or not.

Rapists, murderers, stalkers, sociopaths, gangs, cult abuse,drugging and kidnapping,child trafficking, and all kinds of corruption and people are just supposed to sit back and watch the parade of “freaks” do whatever to whomever??? Please, try to pull that 3 fold law on a kid coming up in such conditions and prepare to be the laughing stock… Not sure if people are just sheltered, delusional or just floating on a pink cloud…

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#24 
Written By Donald Michael Kraig
on April 19th, 2012 @ 10:17 am

Thank you for your post, Emmer. Here is my response to you.

1) If you consciously create a mirror spell your purpose is to harm someone attacking you. You will face negative repercussions for your attack.
2) The article was about psychic or magickal attack, not about physical attack or potential physical attack. If someone has “raped and continues to harm children,” and you have evidence to support this, you should IMMEDIATELY inform your local police, present the evidence and have them arrested.
3) Is it a “normal reaction” to want to hurt someone who has hurt you? Personally, I think so. Luckily, here in the U.S. and in many other countries we are nations of laws. The law says that taking revenge is illegal. The law is there to stop and incarcerate the person who harms others. If it doesn’t, change the laws. Civilization works because people work together for the good of mankind, not because each person takes the law into his or her own hands. What you’re describing is NOT justice, it’s revenge. There is a big difference.
4) Unfortunately, the “you were raped because you raped someone in a past life” is a modern, Western misinterpretation of the concept of karma. Karma isn’t punishment for past actions.
5) If someone “snaps” they need to get assistance. Harming others isn’t going to help them.
6) Magick is different from the martial arts just as bicycles are different from burritos. Further, although some martial arts systems do focus on turning someone’s energy against them, others do not. In addition, once a person is stopped, that person is stopped. If someone sent a psychic attack at you, once that person stopped a mirror spell would continue attacking that person. Worse, in many cases what we perceive of as being an attack from outside is actually an unconscious attack on ourselves. The mirror spell in such an instance would be doing self-harm.
7) The answer to your question, why can’t “one” protect their own community comes with that key word, “one.” Civilization does not function with vigilantes. Vigilanteism returns us to “wild West” fantasies and the 19th century. If you want to make changes to the police, become a police officer. If you don’t like what politicians are doing run for public office or at least get involved with political groups that do more than talk. Write for a newspaper.
8) You ask the ultimate existential questions in your second-to-last paragraph. Religions and philosophers have pondered those questions for thousands of years. You’ll have to find meaning for yourself.
9) Again, “Rapists, murderers, stalkers, sociopaths, gangs, cult abuse, drugging and kidnapping, child trafficking,” etc. generally do not spend their time performing magick rituals to psychically attack people. If they do, getting rid of the energy without yourself becoming an attacker is optimal. Since you’re talking about physical assaults, act in the physical world within the law. If the law isn’t operating correctly, work to change the law. Civilization is a constantly evolving process. We can choose to work to advance society or move backwards to a time of vengeance rather than law and justice, a works where “might makes right.” If you think the individual has it rough when criminals attack now, let me assure you that a society of vigilanteism and vengeance will be far worse. By all means, take action against crime and corruption, but do it in a way that moves society forward.

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#25 
Written By Rebecca
on November 6th, 2012 @ 12:27 pm

Yes! Very well stated, DMK.

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#26 
Written By zena
on February 12th, 2013 @ 3:16 pm

A friend was horrifically abused abd raped by his father as a child.
around the age of 8, his mum realised and his father went to prison for some pathetic amount of months. despite the fact he was convicted of rape and child abuse, he was allowed to remarry and have more children.

My friend was touched by the two little boys – he realised after visiting them ( for a period aged 18/20 he started visiting his fathers new family abd his father) he was horrified and jumped up from sitting on the floor, he ran away and rang the social services to tell them that his father was obviously abusing his two half brothers.

it’s been some years several calls the social services, who have accused my friend of trying to set his father up.

These boys will very likely still being abused now, the police and services will not intervene, my friend became a drug addict and is now in the depths of therapy .

Please don’t tell me that if I did mirror work on this man to stop him hurting these children, who lives he will of already ruined , that I intend him harm.

It us a very stupid ignorant thing to say.
Sorry but as a woman who has lived through rape, child abuse, seen friends die from anorexia after child abuse etc, you gave clearly no idea of real pain and the need to reflect someone’s true nature back to them inorder to protect the vulnerable.

I feel angry and xxxx off after reading this , really.
this is egotistical bullxxx

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#27 
Written By Donald Michael Kraig
on February 12th, 2013 @ 3:49 pm

Thank you for your comment, Zena.

From your comment it is obvious that you are still in a lot of pain because of your experiences. I hope that in the future you are able to resolve that pain and anguish and find a life of peace and joyousness.

I wish, however, that you had read my post with perhaps a bit more clarity before calling it “egotistical bullxxx.”

You make clear that your idea of a mirror spell is to “reflect someone’s true nature back to them.” In my post I clearly stated that a mirror spell was one that returned a negative spell to the person who sent it.

Your anger is toward your conception of the nature of a mirror spell—just the name—not what I posted.

My post had nothing to do with magick that reveals a person’s true nature to him or her. I have nothing against such a spell.

Again, I hope you and your friend can find peace. I would respectfully suggest that you also look at my post, http://www.llewellyn.com/blog/2012/9/magick-forgiveness-2/

On one level I fear that it might upset you. I hope that you will read it with an open mind and heart.

You and your friend have also had a great part of you taken away. A book I recommend for people dealing with such powerful issues is “How to Survive the Loss of a Love” by Peter McWilliams, Harold H. Bloomfield and Melba Colgrove. It has helped many people, including myself.

Good luck, and peace.

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#28 
Written By Angela
on March 5th, 2013 @ 9:30 am

I have done several mirror spells to stop attacks on me or my family and they have all worked exactly the way I stated them and planned on them to work. I do not feel a mirror spell is negative, it is a protection spell that only reverses negative actions and thoughts back to the person that is creating them in the first place. How is protecting yourself and your family by just reversing what comes at you considered negative? You are not the one creating the negative actions / thoughts in the first place.

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#29 
Written By Donald Michael Kraig
on March 5th, 2013 @ 7:38 pm

Angela, a mirror spell, as you wrote, sends “negative actions…back to the person that is creating them…” I agree. It’s sending negative actions. Protecting yourself and your family by harming others is still harming others. You may not be creating the negativity, but your taking it, directing it, and using it to attack another person.

My guess is that if you simply didn’t like someone you wouldn’t do something negative to harm them. You know not to do this otherwise you wouldn’t be focusing on the source of the negativity. But merely because you didn’t create the negative energy, sending it back to someone is using it while knowing it’s wrong.

The real question, in my opinion, is why, with so many other option available, it seems right to potentially harm someone? Or look at it another way: a gun manufacturer makes a gun but a person uses it to kill another. Isn’t the person who knowingly fired the gun responsible?

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#30 
Written By Lord Moonwater
on May 8th, 2013 @ 8:49 pm

I think I don’t trust anyone with the logic of Mr. Kraig. You sound like a mechanical practioner of witchcraft who is too rules based for your own good. First of all, Earth is a free will zone in the universe so advising against this or that is pointless. People will do what they choose to do anyways. Secondly, there are human beings who don’t like other human beings for whatever reason. That ‘dislike’? is a mental energy, a vibration if you will, emit from a person’s psyche. You don’t have to be telekinetic to engage in a psychic attack. On this dense Earth plane? watching the news can be a psychic attack, listening to the radio can be a psychic attack due to vibrations that disrupt harmonious energy. So its actually more frequent than “rare”. I have witnessed the mirror spell at work and have recommended it to others with much success. I have used it in situations where I was socially ostracized because of the color of my skin for instance. Applying the mirror spell is NOT a “sending” act. It’s a
deflecting act. What I’ve found is that deflecting energy back to sender can result in self awareness for the sender or attacker. It becomes an opportunity for them to see the error in their ways. If said person is a dark magical person..they don’t care that bad energy cones back to them. But you will not convince me that deflecting sent energy is the same as sending it. To be clear, karma means ‘action’ and if using a mirror spell creates any karma? it’s a karma of other people using the spell to deflect your psychic attacks against them. Let is also not forget the power of our intention. If it is your intent to see someone hurt? that is what will come back. If you are protecting yourself? You are not incurring a bad karma. You are exercising the first law of nature.

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#31 
Written By Donald Michael Kraig
on May 9th, 2013 @ 8:55 am

Thank you for your comment. We each will have to decide in whom we will place our trust. I would suggest that we may have to “agree to disagree.”

You first state that the “Earth is a free will zone in the universe so advising against this or that is pointless.” If advising agains’t something is pointless, then so is advising for anything. So what you’re essentially saying is that nobody should ever give any advice. I would respectfully disagree.

I disagree because, as you put it, the “Earth is a free will zone.” In order to be able to exert our free wills we need to have information, and your statement denies the value of any outside information. It denies the value of teachers, of books, and of philosophers who share what they believe. It denies the value of mothers and fathers sharing their experience when they give advice. So we disagree on this point.

You say, “there are human beings who don’t like other human beings for whatever reason.” I agree. Then you say that dislike “is a mental energy.” I partially disagree. I would say that emotions such as dislike, anger, hate, love, etc. are not energies in themselves. Rather, they are like the information—music, talk, etc.—that is attached to the energy of radio waves when we listen to the radio. They modulate the “carrier wave” of mental energy. That is why it is possible to filter out the modulation signal of anger, rage, hate, distrust, etc. and allow the pure energy through.

You say that we don’t “have to be telekinetic to engage in a psychic attack.” I would say that we all have telekinetic abilities, but for most people the development of those abilities requires training (oh, there’s that advice thing you don’t like again) and practice. So for all practical purposes most people are not aware of, nor have they developed, psychokinetic abilities and they do not need to consciously use such abilities for psychic attack.

I disagree that the information that comes through the over-the-air media is a psychic attack. Rather, it can be an attack on our psyches, our minds. And since this is associated not with the energy per se, but with the modulation of that energy due to the content, such attacks are not limited to information from radio and TV. They also come from what we read and even from friends and relatives trying to manipulate us. I have described this in my Modern Magick and pointed out that such attacks on our psyches are rather common.

You say that you have used mirror spells successfully. Well, that’s the real crux of the matter, now, isn’t it. I advised against something you use and even though to the best of my knowledge we’ve never met, you dislike the criticism. Most criticism is considered to be negative, however in my article I pointed out that in future articles I’d be describing ways to protect yourself from real or perceived acts (see, for example, my series on the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram).

You write, “Applying the mirror spell is NOT a ‘sending’ act. It’s a
deflecting act.” That’s a nice bit of wordplay to deny responsibility for one’s actions. Earlier, you wrote that were in a “free will zone” and now you’re denying that a person’s choice to return attempted harm with harm isn’t free will, it’s just a “deflecting act.” I would say it’s a free will act for which you’re responsible. After all, if we believe in free will, then we’re responsible for our acts.

Besides, it’s not a “deflecting” act at all. “Deflecting” means to turn something aside. But that’s not the purpose of mirror spells. You even say as much when you say that you’re turning the energy of the attack “back to [the] sender.” That’s not deflection, that a conscious, free will choice to reflect the energy back on the sender.

Further, as I pointed out, sometimes the attack is self-created. In effect, you are attacking yourself. And as I also pointed out, sometimes the attack against you was not intended; it was the uncontrolled result of intense emotion. How is a conscious and free will sending of negative energy against someone who doesn’t know what they’re doing, or against yourself, going to “result in self-awareness for the sender or attacker?” If the attacker doesn’t know they’ve sent an attack, how can the destruction you’re consciously sending them going to have an effect? And if you’re unconsciously attacking yourself, the more you return the energy the more you may think you’re under attack. It could form a negative loop that could be quite harmful.

Yes, karma does mean action. If a person consciously or subconsciously acts to harm you, they will reap the karmic result. Similarly, the action of making a mirror spell with the intent of returning negative energy to the sender is an action, and it’s one for which the maker of the mirror spell will get a karmic result.

Protecting is not attacking. Deflecting is not reflecting. Intention has nothing to do with karma; it’s only your actions that count.

Good luck on your path.

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#32 
Written By lee
on October 22nd, 2013 @ 7:03 am

Sorry but I have used mirror spells to protect myself and have NEVER had anything bad happen to me. Its my choice and perhapsI am just fortunate in that way….who knows but it ALWAYS works for me.

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#33 
Written By Heather
on November 14th, 2013 @ 4:12 pm

I’ve never hurt anyone and always played by the rule book but been walked over all my life. I’ve been hurt by other people a great deal and I’ve not done anything to dish it out that I could think it’s me who needs to change. Now I use mirrors and just about every other damned thing to hand and I’m not at all ashamed of it. Some control and self worth has come into my life now and I don’t get messed about. I don’t really give a monkeys if it harms them, they should not have messed with me in the first place. And after a few months things have been clearer and both internally and externally more steady. I’ve not needed to put some stick about now and I go by the rule you can’t make an omelette without breaking eggs and a little shake up for a lot of peace is a compromise I’m willing to make. I’m not saying it was easy and it was explosive at first but I needed to do it and I’m glad I had the presence of mind to rough it out.

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#34 
Written By Lisa
on December 15th, 2013 @ 11:47 pm

How do you do this mirror spell?

I heard of one on coast to coast program one night where you take a picture of yourself and tape it to the back of a mirror- picture facing the mirror to ward off any negative attacks against you.

I put the picture on the mirror during an intense exam study week and forgot all about it. about 3 days later I did notice my room was clearer, cooler, and I felt a whole lot lighter and happier.

The only differences I could tell was that my mother-n-law stayed away from me, and I have no desire to call on her to see how she is doing, and the baby I am raising that was placed with me 2 years ago is finally content, smiling, and happy.

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#35 
Written By Debbie
on December 20th, 2013 @ 3:50 pm

“Intent” is everything…

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#36 
Written By Roger Nobles
on January 21st, 2014 @ 10:57 pm

A true mirror spell is defensive, not offensive – simply a reflective shield, it attacks no-one – I’ve used it for years, always effective and never any negative repercussions. Another very similar and equally effective positive spell is an “Awareness” spell to allow someone to see what their actions or inaction does to others. Neither compromise free-will, neither include negative intentions. Both are effective and defensive.

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#37 
Written By LoveHateNeutral
on February 25th, 2014 @ 1:52 am

To the OP and the side of that argument. The first thing I would like to say is that was a mighty fine use of the Red Herring fallacy. I normally do not even advise people on magic unless they are close to me. However I think that you forget that a spell is created not by words or principals, but a will. TO say that mirror magic is intent to harm just also further illustrates your heavy replies rooted in fallacy. To anyone else who reads you determine the intent of the spell. It is not always unacceptable to harm someone. I know there will be a reply of of this, but go do your homework. If you do you wont even ask why I say this. The spell is never defined as good or evil. In reality there is not good or evil spell. There are however good and bad people, or pure vs dark if you desire. There are light and dark consequences for every action. This is defined in two ways 1 what was YOUR intent. 2 What was the result. Results make the most difference. Good luck to all in your search.

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#38 
Written By GraHog
on May 4th, 2014 @ 2:32 pm

To lovehateneutrral

First, honestly thank you for giving someone a pause. You have wise words.

What does one do if their cat-beloved by the neighborhood and dog walkers as the cat loves dogs and runs to play with them- may be poisoned by a neighbor-who did threaten the cat and then threaten me with physical harm. He said he would take care of ‘It and me’ in his own way (he has guns) and 1 month later the cat has complete organ failure?
We are waiting for complete toxicology report, cat is hanging on and NEVER bothered a neighbor-all love him and call him to them. What do you do? Wait a year and 1 day? Neighbor is known to be one oar short needed for boat, filled with non-directional rage and NOT just me. Demon possession?-not going there. I will wait. Lie in wait. And he runs a day care where I have HEARD and SEEN him verbalize abuse on 3 year olds. I will do what I can with what I have.
An honest mirror prayer towards him would be very painful. My intent would be merely to reflect his actions upon him. And that would outweigh any revenge or dark prayer that could be imagined.
A mirror spell is what it should be-to reflect the actions one commits back on to them. As for me, without blinded ego, wish someone would give me a mirror spell. (I have made mistakes but never killed or anything remotely awful you could imagine-was a fluffy bunny Wiccan).
If Pagan/Wicca has taught me ONE thing, it is to HONESTLY assess your emotions, desires and prayers. And if you want to take the hit, then you have to know it is coming. Again, a year and a day. You may cool down or discover more truths. Until then, I wait.
Blessed Be to ALL!

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#39 
Written By Govina
on June 10th, 2014 @ 2:50 am

Not to change the subject but….
Is it possible, or I should say, could it be at all beneficial to incorporate the use of this apparently powerful mirror box symbolism in a positive spell for one’s self? For example perhaps a spell created to multiply funds exponentially? Or is making one’s self the beneficiary of a mirror box always negatively binding?

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#40 
Written By james s
on July 25th, 2014 @ 1:56 pm

hi donald im having serious issues over here and i wonderd
if u could give me, some tips/advise im under physic attack! i dont want to like you say attack in anger but they wont stop and i ive tried to reason with them (telepathically! lol) but there haaving none of it, is there anything i can do to protect myself? there mind reading me day and night and there not letting up. please reply asap as i dont know what to do against this one. they have done all manner of black magick on me and since im aware of it, seems to have minuscule effect. can u advise me to block these telepathic vampires?

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#41 
Written By Freddie
on August 13th, 2014 @ 12:49 pm

Greetings,

I’ve been using a protective mirroring device for years because somebody told me that they were using a hexing mirroring device against me until I stopped using a hexing mirroring device (I wasn’t using a hexing mirroring device). I had just started using a protective mirroring device. There was no reasoning with him. He was fairly prominent in Wiccan circles at the time. He was obviously not as psychic as he thought.
It is possible that I was placed in a mirroring box as a child and it was reflecting some negative energy away from me but I was also in it with somebody who hated me and wanted me dead from birth and it was also reflecting her negative energy back to her (and me). I was taught when using a particular protective mirroring spell to also include my spouse, children, pets and other loved ones with the same spell so that they would not be hit with any negative spells aimed at me that couldn’t reach me because of the protective mirroring spell. You also include your spouse, children, pets and other loved ones in that particular protective mirroring spell so that you don’t get lonely.
Protective mirroring spells do have their uses. I’m using several at the moment and not just on me. Some are for testing purposes. I’m not necessarily wishing anyone dead at the moment and I’m trying to ascertain if I’m being hexed and by whom and I’m running this test in an attempt to discover who is doing what to me. I also don’t appreciate people attacking my friends and acquaintances just because they know me and I was threatened that way as well.
I see no harm in using protective mirroring devices because we are supposed to help ourselves spiritually advance and if we’re dead because of a hex then our spiritual advancement isn’t going to occur. There is a difference between protective mirroring devices and hexing ones. My rage is tempting me to use the hexing version but I’m not.
I’ve also read where there are those who consider a hexing mirror device a protective one just because it reflects toward a particular person. You might want to consider a six sided protective mirroring device if you really want to protect yourself. There are seams so it isn’t as though you can keep any positive energy from reaching you and why would you?

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